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Parler has now been booted by Amazon, Apple and Google, and it may have to go offline temporarily

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11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 3:58:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
Like the people that did it?

Exactly.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 4:56:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 3:22:07 PM CowDung wrote:
...and were these "literal acts of violent insurrection against the US government" taking place on the Parler website itself?

The active planning of said acts? Which is what I said? Yes. There are any number of screenshots that ultimately led to the decisions by Google, Apple, and AWS.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:08:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
But you don't shut down the entire company because of it. You report those people to the authorities.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:11:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:08:26 PM Noldor wrote:
But you don't shut down the entire company because of it. You report those people to the authorities.

And nobody shut down Parler. A private company (or in this case companies) decided to no longer do business with another private company.

Freedom, right?
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:13:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:08:26 PM Noldor wrote:
But you don't shut down the entire company because of it. You report those people to the authorities.

Parler is welcome to find a new web hosting service. But AWS is also welcome to say they don't want to associate with a platform that lets planning of violent acts go unmoderated. Those are crimes, not just "opinions we disagree with."

Something something free market
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:15:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 2:41:16 PM birdsong4j wrote:
AWS has an extremely high bar for shutting down service to sites. Parler was asked to engage in better content moderation because Trump terrorists, election deniers, and Q idiots were running free on the service and literally planning acts of sedition and violence against elected officials. They declined to do so. Those f*cks on Jan 6 built a damn gallows outside the Capitol. If you think it's reasonable to let them continue running wild, finding each other, and then hooking up on WhatsApp or Signal to continue planning, then I hope you'd be OK with Twitter allowing ISIS to go unchecked on their platform (which they don't, btw). Just because the Trumpists are mostly white people doesn't mean they aren't terrorists.


So this so called coup wasn't planned inside the Republican party?
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:25:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 3:22:07 PM CowDung wrote:
...and were these "literal acts of violent insurrection against the US government" taking place on the Parler website itself?
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 4:56:04 PM birdsong4j wrote:
The active planning of said acts? Which is what I said? Yes. There are any number of screenshots that ultimately led to the decisions by Google, Apple, and AWS.


I quoted exactly what you said.

How many of the people arrested for their actions at the Capitol were Parler users?

11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:26:43 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Parler was asked to engage in better content moderation because Trump terrorists, election deniers, and Q idiots were running free on the service and literally planning acts of sedition and violence against elected officials. They declined to do so."

This is what I said, CD. They were planning those acts.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:27:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
This one


11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:30:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
If you're using a service in order to plan crimes, which was happening up until Parler went offiline (Jan 6 was not the only one; there are things in planning between now and inauguration, both in DC and in state capitals), that service has the right to terminate their business with you.

This is not controversial.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:30:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and how many were arrested for violent assault?
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:31:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:26:43 PM birdsong4j wrote:
"Parler was asked to engage in better content moderation because Trump terrorists, election deniers, and Q idiots were running free on the service and literally planning acts of sedition and violence against elected officials. They declined to do so." This is what I said, CD. They were planning those acts.


This is your quote:

On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 2:43:10 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Of course CD is too stupid to understand the difference between "something they disagree with" and "literal acts of violent insurrection against the US government."


11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:32:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yes. They were planning those crimes. In context with my other post, that meaning is clear.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:32:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:30:01 PM birdsong4j wrote:
If you're using a service in order to plan crimes, which was happening up until Parler went offiline (Jan 6 was not the only one; there are things in planning between now and inauguration, both in DC and in state capitals), that service has the right to terminate their business with you. This is not controversial.


Not controversial? The ACLU is questioning it.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:32:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:08:26 PM Noldor wrote:
But you don't shut down the entire company because of it. You report those people to the authorities.


When you are in a position to offer services to a platform that unites extremists who would otherwise be unlikely to meet, feel free to continue to provide the service that allows them to form a terrorist network.

Other companies would rather let individual extremists languish in isolation rather than form terrorist networks
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:34:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
CD is in favor of ISIS being able to use social media freely, apparently.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:34:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:32:32 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Yes. They were planning those crimes. In context with my other post, that meaning is clear.


How many have been charged with "literal acts of violent insurrection against the US government" so far?

11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:37:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:34:03 PM birdsong4j wrote:
CD is in favor of ISIS being able to use social media freely, apparently.


As was stated earlier, social media can be monitored and the information used to prevent attacks and prosecute those planning them.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:39:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:40:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:44:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:40:14 PM snowbdr88 wrote:
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That at least indicates that Parler was used by those participating in the Capitol protests. And I was thinking that it was Trump that directed them to storm the Capitol...
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:46:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
**Looks more closely into Parler user named "theRealDonaldTrump"**

You don't think...

11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:48:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:32:32 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Yes. They were planning those crimes. In context with my other post, that meaning is clear.
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:34:20 PM CowDung wrote:
How many have been charged with "literal acts of violent insurrection against the US government" so far?


No one so far, as far as I know.

And the DOJ is actually investigating the terrorists for seditious conspiracy, which is a more serious charge.

https://twitter.com/acyn/status/134...
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 6:01:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:08:26 PM Noldor wrote:
But you don't shut down the entire company because of it. You report those people to the authorities.
On Tuesday 1/12/21 - 5:11:01 PM snowbdr88 wrote:
And nobody shut down Parler. A private company (or in this case companies) decided to no longer do business with another private company. Freedom, right?

Somebody did shut down Parler. Major tech corporations did. They are free to do so, but it doesn't make it right.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/12/21 - 6:04:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
No one shut Parler down.

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