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3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:20:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
Do you think our involvement in Iraq during the Gulf War influenced a rise in extremism in the region?
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:21:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
ISIS was certainly a result of further military involvement in the region.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:28:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:21:30 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
ISIS was certainly a result of further military involvement in the region.

On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:20:46 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Do you think our involvement in Iraq during the Gulf War influenced a rise in extremism in the region?

And that makes Sadam Hussein an indirect supporter of Al Qaida (kinda like Iran and Hezbolah)?
You may want to think this over.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:39:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:21:30 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
ISIS was certainly a result of further military involvement in the region.
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:20:46 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Do you think our involvement in Iraq during the Gulf War influenced a rise in extremism in the region?
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:28:40 PM Matthias wrote:
And that makes Sadam Hussein an indirect supporter of Al Qaida (kinda like Iran and Hezbolah)? You may want to think this over.


Saddam Hussein was also an extremist. He was the most dangerous leader in the Middle East and fostered extremism.

If anything it was to protect the Kurds from further acts of extremism and it wasn’t about oil.

When we invaded Afghanistan Saddam was the biggest threat of retaliation from the Middle East.

It was a policy of attempting to eradicate extremism.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:40:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
My main point is that seventh graders who’s parents told them that after 911 America was the actual bad guy were heinously incorrect.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:44:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Because for many years the fact that 12 year olds responded to 911 by attacking American policy with political rhetoric just made me want to drink until I blacked out.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:46:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:40:53 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
My main point is that seventh graders who’s parents told them that after 911 America was the actual bad guy were heinously incorrect.

Then perhaps you should have made that point instead of comparing Sadam Husseins connection to 9/11 with that of Iran's involvement with Hezbolah. Because the two are nothing alike.
I will not comment on your post before the one I quoted because there's so many wrongs in it that the discussion would even further derail this thread.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:50:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well we were talking about Trumps economy versus Obama’s economy.

And we seem to be under the impression that just because you didn’t support a war it has no effect on the economy.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:51:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not about oil

Cough
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:56:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:50:35 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Well we were talking about Trumps economy versus Obama’s economy. And we seem to be under the impression that just because you didn’t support a war it has no effect on the economy.

Well, that's not what Courtbebe said but whatever ...
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 12:58:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
The Mission Accomplished banner is an historical embarrassment don’t get me wrong. But the intention was not criminal.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:00:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:39:29 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
When we invaded Afghanistan Saddam was the biggest threat of retaliation from the Middle East.


No
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:01:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
And that link I included says that people who believe the subprime mortgage issue had a more significant impact than the Iraq War are the ones considered revisionists.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:02:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:39:29 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
When we invaded Afghanistan Saddam was the biggest threat of retaliation from the Middle East.
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:00:48 PM Courtbebe wrote:
No


Was he the loosest cannon?
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:04:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:50:35 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Well we were talking about Trumps economy versus Obama’s economy. And we seem to be under the impression that just because you didn’t support a war it has no effect on the economy.
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:56:29 PM Matthias wrote:
Well, that's not what Courtbebe said but whatever ...


Yeah, that’s definitely not what I said.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:05:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:39:29 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
When we invaded Afghanistan Saddam was the biggest threat of retaliation from the Middle East.
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:00:48 PM Courtbebe wrote:
No
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:02:08 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Was he the loosest cannon?


Dude, he wasn’t a threat. There have been numerous investigations, reports, Congressional hearings, etc. on this.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:06:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 12:39:29 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
When we invaded Afghanistan Saddam was the biggest threat of retaliation from the Middle East.
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:00:48 PM Courtbebe wrote:
No
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:02:08 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Was he the loosest cannon?
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:05:30 PM Courtbebe wrote:
Dude, he wasn’t a threat. There have been numerous investigations, reports, Congressional hearings, etc. on this.


Was he an extremist fostering extremism in his country?
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:09:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Has Iraq sponsored terrorism?
Yes. Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship provided headquarters, operating bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to hard-line Palestinian groups. During the 1991 Gulf War, Saddam commissioned several failed terrorist attacks on U.S. facilities. Prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the State Department listed Iraq as a state sponsor of terrorism. The question of Iraq’s link to terrorism grew more urgent with Saddam’s suspected determination to develop weapons of mass destruction (WMD), which Bush administration officials feared he might share with terrorists who could launch devastating attacks against the United States...

From a link.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:12:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:09:26 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
... From a link.

Damn, that is a good source indeed!
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:12:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:01:23 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
And that link I included says that people who believe the subprime mortgage issue had a more significant impact than the Iraq War are the ones considered revisionists.

3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:13:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:09:26 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
... From a link.
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:12:26 PM Matthias wrote:
Damn, that is a good source indeed!


But he did breed terrorism in his country.

Do you think that’s not true?
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:14:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think it’s an improvement from the f*ck off c*nt nazi show.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:17:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:06:36 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Was he an extremist fostering extremism in his country?


Dude, he wasn’t a threat. There have been numerous investigations, reports, Congressional hearings, etc. on this.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:19:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:06:36 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Was he an extremist fostering extremism in his country?
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:17:29 PM Courtbebe wrote:
Dude, he wasn’t a threat. There have been numerous investigations, reports, Congressional hearings, etc. on this.


We obviously were not able to eradicate Islamic Extremism. It was a failed attempt and made bit of a Pandora’s box.

But it’s probably systemic in the Middle East.

I wonder why.
3 months ago - Friday 12/4/20 - 1:21:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:06:36 PM amaqdrinker wrote:
Was he an extremist fostering extremism in his country?
On Friday 12/4/20 - 1:17:29 PM Courtbebe wrote:
Dude, he wasn’t a threat. There have been numerous investigations, reports, Congressional hearings, etc. on this.


I really want to finish the book I was reading about the Kurds influence in the conflict. It’s terribly depressing that it all just falls apart.

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