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Oscars Announce New Inclusion Requirements for Best Picture Eligibility

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12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 4:03:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
For the 94th and 95th Oscars ceremonies, scheduled for 2022 and 2023, a film will submit a confidential Academy Inclusion Standards form to be considered for best picture. Beginning in 2024, for the 96th Oscars, a film submitting for best picture will need to meet the inclusion thresholds by meeting two of the four standards.

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12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 4:04:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
This is so dumb. They just got rid of the Best Picture award. It's now the Best Diversity award.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 4:05:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
This is unfair to the movie that would've been awarded Best Picture but wasn't because they didn't meet these two of four standards that have nothing to do with the craft of filmmaking.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 4:09:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh damn. What will they ever do if they have people on the set who aren't all straight, white, American born males?
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 4:12:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
I saw 30% or 1 of the main characters. Really? Is it that difficult to include POC, women, LGBTQ+ or other minorities?
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 4:48:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
lol of course Noldor is mad about this.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:19:36 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/11/20 - 4:12:28 PM postallbear wrote:
I saw 30% or 1 of the main characters. Really? Is it that difficult to include POC, women, LGBTQ+ or other minorities?


Depends on the subject matter of the film- - some films would be very easy to include minorities, particularly when it comes to fictional pieces, some films, not always so easy.

Looking at the list of past Best Picture winners, while I have not seen them all, I get the impression that most of them (at least those made in the more recent couple of decades) met the criteria for lead/main characters.

https://www.today.com/popculture/co...
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:23:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
If anything, they probably should get rid of the gendered awards- - instead of 'best actress' or 'best actor', they should just have a 'best performer' award that includes both genders (or multi or non-genders).
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:24:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/11/20 - 4:12:28 PM postallbear wrote:
I saw 30% or 1 of the main characters. Really? Is it that difficult to include POC, women, LGBTQ+ or other minorities?


It's not a question of how difficult it is or isn't. The Best Picture award should be given to the movie most people thought was the Best Picture, not Best Picture with diverse actors. It could be an all black cast or all gay cast etc, I don't care. I just care that the movie most people thought was the best actually wins the Best Picture award.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:28:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think the public at large has recently been absolutely scorched by the storytelling of boring white dudes, so I can't say I'm against this.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:31:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
And there's a lot more people who go into a film than just the performers. What's wrong with having something in place to insure that minorities get work.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:42:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Because the Best Picture award shouldn't be about anything other than if people thought it was the Best Picture. If it's about anything other than that, it's not a Best Picture award, it's something else.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:43:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/11/20 - 5:28:56 PM Rag_Doll_ wrote:
I think the public at large has recently been absolutely scorched by the storytelling of boring white dudes, so I can't say I'm against this.

If the public at large was bored with a movie then it most likely would not win the Best Picture award.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:45:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
I read noldor's posts and all I see is a whole lot of "waaaaaahhhh I am upset when this is not all about me and people who look like me"
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:48:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/11/20 - 5:42:08 PM Noldor wrote:
Because the Best Picture award shouldn't be about anything other than if people thought it was the Best Picture. If it's about anything other than that, it's not a Best Picture award, it's something else.


"people" don't vote for Best Picture, The Academy does.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:49:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
The Oscars aren't the People's Choice Awards.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:49:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
And the Academy is made up of ... people
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:50:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/11/20 - 5:45:14 PM birdsong4j wrote:
I read noldor's posts and all I see is a whole lot of "waaaaaahhhh I am upset when this is not all about me and people who look like me"


I guess you missed the part where I said " It could be an all black cast or all gay cast etc, I don't care."

Hell, you missed my whole entire point.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 5:51:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/11/20 - 5:31:14 PM postallbear wrote:
And there's a lot more people who go into a film than just the performers. What's wrong with having something in place to insure that minorities get work.


Standards for B, C and D seem a lot more reasonable than A from the standpoint of not limiting the types of pictures that are eligible for 'best picture'.

12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 6:00:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
And all a picture has to do is meet criteria in two of the four categories. Very reasonable.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 6:50:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
I see what they want and find that ok but I'm not sure they really chose the best way to achieve this.
One reason for this is the rather vague wording. E.g. do these criteria come with a white list of what qualifies as an "other underrepresented race or ethnicity" (German, Italian, Canadian?)?
Would my parents qualify as "people with cognitive or physical disabilities, or who are deaf or hard of hearing" as I find them more and more slow in understanding, only in parts due to hard hearing that comes with age (on the other hand old people might qualify for an underrepresented minority anyway ... and they're German too!).
Could standard C (and possibly D) not become a problem for low budget productions and the small production 'companies' that are involved in them?
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 6:50:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
I guess I'd prefer a change in Academy composition over setting blurry nomination criteria. A more diverse panel would probably vote for more diverse movies even without these criteria.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 7:47:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
I understand the objection to the initiative, in the same way that I understand the "judge the art and not the artist" mentality. The flip side is that people have been criticising the Academy with being out of touch with the average movie-goer for a while. While they're not new objections, I think Linday Ellis' video on 'Oscar bait' is a nice commentary on the idea that the Oscar's are about the craft of film-making these days.

If the point of the Academy is to recognise and reward films that are socially important in some way, then I'm okay with it having some standards with respect to representation. The number of tick boxes and phrasing seem less important to me than encouraging the industry to look at the stories being told and the people who are around the table. I don't think the best picture award is sacred.
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 8:21:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think the standards listed out are pretty reasonable and if you can’t hit at least two of them then kinda f-ck you
12 days ago - Friday 9/11/20 - 9:57:57 PM EST (GMT-5)
I mean unless you're literally making a movie about Nazis, for Nazis you should probably have at least 2 of the 4 just in the natural selection process of the most qualified people.

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