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27 days ago - Thursday 9/19/19 - 1:27:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister, wore brownface makeup to a party at the private school where he was teaching in the spring of 2001. TIME has obtained a photograph of the incident.

The photograph has not been previously reported. The picture was taken at an “Arabian Nights”-themed gala. It shows Trudeau, then the 29-year-old son of the late former Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau, wearing a turban and robes with his face, neck and hands completely darkened. The photograph appears in the 2000-2001 yearbook of West Point Grey Academy, a private day school where Trudeau was a teacher.

https://time.com/5680759/justin-tru...
27 days ago - Thursday 9/19/19 - 1:39:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wait...I was told that this photo "mysteriously" disappeared within hours after the story broke, and could no longer be found. I'm confused as to how I'm seeing it at the very top of a story in a major US publication.
27 days ago - Thursday 9/19/19 - 1:42:44 PM EST (GMT-5)

I corrected that in that other thread.

Oops!
27 days ago - Thursday 9/19/19 - 2:43:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
It’s worth a slap on the wrist, but nothing more.

Scheer is trying very hard to break Trudeau’s image.

(I dislike them both, but Trudeau is a lesser evil )
27 days ago - Thursday 9/19/19 - 3:05:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
Scheer is so smarmy.

Nothing irritates me more than a smug politician.

Trudeau is more the Deer in the headlights type of guy. Especially at the moment.
27 days ago - Thursday 9/19/19 - 10:16:06 PM EST (GMT-5)

27 days ago - Thursday 9/19/19 - 11:37:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 9/19/19 - 10:16:06 PM smoke_sucks wrote:
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26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 1:49:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
"Justin Trudeau says he does not know how many times he's worn blackface in his life"

"But he declined to say definitively whether there were more instances of him wearing dark makeup. He did not remember each instance, he said, because his privilege gave him a blind spot on the issue."

That is the wokest version of "I've worn a lot of blackface" the world will ever hear.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 10:52:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/20/19 - 1:49:00 AM Mr Bungle wrote:
"Justin Trudeau says he does not know how many times he's worn blackface in his life" "But he declined to say definitively whether there were more instances of him wearing dark makeup. He did not remember each instance, he said, because his privilege gave him a blind spot on the issue." That is the wokest version of "I've worn a lot of blackface" the world will ever hear.


I mean, I do think it's probably honest, though. Because if it weren't, that would be a really unhelpful (to his own case) thing to say.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 12:30:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think he believes it at this point. That said, they've known about this since July, and based on the apology, then follow up apology once three were out, I'm willing to bet the strategy was only to try and bury this. Reeks of "I'm sorry I got caught."
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 12:36:58 PM EST (GMT-5)
Okay, not excusing the guy, but context is needed here: blackface being a racist act is something most French Canadians discovered fairly recently. When blackface was performed up to the 20’s , it was done mostly in private clubs to the anglo saxon elite.
The black population of Montreal around 1919 was 600 people, mostly Americans working for the railway system.
Not saying racism didn’t exist among French Canadians, it definitely did. But specifically blackface was still perform up to recently. And not to mock the black population, but either for identification (white actor playing Othello) or to denounce stupid white behavior.

There is a recent effort to scout more ethnic talent on French tv and movies, but we’re still way behind Toronto for that matter.
(While Montreal is certainly cosmopolitan, Toronto is much more about visible minorities)

My opinion.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 12:39:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/20/19 - 12:30:48 PM Mr Bungle wrote:
I think he believes it at this point. That said, they've known about this since July, and based on the apology, then follow up apology once three were out, I'm willing to bet the strategy was only to try and bury this. Reeks of "I'm sorry I got caught."

Every party except the conservative are trying to launch a positive campaign. But Scheer decided to start with this. People want this buried for fear of a nastier electoral season. Even Singh dodges the subject.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 1:22:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wasn’t this the guy calling Trump a racist?
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 1:31:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
Someone else wearing brownface does not negate the fact that Trump is a racist.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 2:00:16 PM EST (GMT-5)
As Abz pointed out, there is a difference in French Canadian culture vs American as well as a lack of people of color to play those roles in theatre.

There was also an apology (something beyond dickhead's comprehension) And an admission (again, not in trumps vocabulary) that the times in question weren't the only times he did it.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 2:02:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not to say Trudeau is faultless here.

There are circumstances and apologies that we don't see in trumps case.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 2:03:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
Do you think Trudeau is a racist?
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 2:18:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
Pot calling the kettle brown?
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 2:55:04 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/20/19 - 2:03:50 PM Noldor wrote:
Do you think Trudeau is a racist?


I don't think Trudeau is.

Times were different when those pictures were taken. The events didn't happen behind closed doors, they were relatively public events and no outrage at the time.

I think Andrew Scheer on the other hand is Racist. He wants to bring back the Office of Religious Freedom, which in the past was 2/3rds Christian and most likely very biased. The Conservatives have a long history of trying to Make Canada Great Again, by making it whiter.

26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 4:45:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
Would you say the same if they had found a photo of Trump in black face?
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 5:26:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
"Would you say we're allowed to take the totality of one's actions into account, as well as the culture in which they live, when making such determinations?"

Don't be ridiculous.
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 6:44:47 PM EST (GMT-5)

26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 8:30:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
I just want to add that the fact that blackface wasn't a thing here is NOT a justification for it to happen again. (it does unfortunately)

Like one of our comedian said "if one your friend is asking to stop doing something because it hurts him/her, even if you don't understand why, you need to stop, otherwise you're an asshole."
26 days ago - Friday 9/20/19 - 10:46:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/20/19 - 4:45:46 PM Noldor wrote:
Would you say the same if they had found a photo of Trump in black face?


Depending on when it happened and why, i might say the same thing.




Donald Trump's long history of Racism, from the 1970's to 2019
25 days ago - Saturday 9/21/19 - 6:27:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 9/20/19 - 2:03:50 PM Noldor wrote:
Do you think Trudeau is a racist?
On Friday 9/20/19 - 2:55:04 PM smoke_sucks wrote:
I don't think Trudeau is. Times were different when those pictures were taken. The events didn't happen behind closed doors, they were relatively public events and no outrage at the time.


I think you are being too kind. 2001 is hardly 1950. They were semi closed events, parties and shows at elite private schools no doubt filled with the same silver spoon elites as Trudeau.

Noldor is a moron, trump is a racist but to just casually bat this away isnt appropriate. He is the kind of born to rule leader who should be what parties to the left should be striving to avoid.

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