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Man Who Killed Charlottesville Protester Sentenced to Life in Prison

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19 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:01:08 PM EST (GMT-5)
Breaking now.

"The man who drove his car into a crowd of anti-racist protesters in Charlottesville, Va., killing one person and injuring many others will spend the rest of his life in prison."

Good riddance.

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19 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:02:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
Not surprised at all...
19 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:04:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and it really is 'life in prison'- - no parole.

"Federal prosecutors had asked the judge for a life sentence for Fields, who is 22. A plea deal brokered in March took away the possibility of the death penalty, and federal prosecutors and Fields' lawyers agreed that federal sentencing guidelines called for a life sentence. As part of the deal, Fields pleaded guilty to 29 of the 30 federal hate crimes he faced and is not eligible for parole."
19 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:07:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
This was new to me, from the NBC article about his sentencing:

Gasps could be heard Friday among a packed courtroom, which included Heyer's mother, when prosecutors told the judge that a classmate of Fields had testified that during a high school trip to a German concentration camp, Fields had remarked: "This is where the magic happened."

Prosecutors said they were told Fields was "like a kid at Disney World" during that trip. They had earlier said that Fields had revered Adolf Hitler, keeping a picture of him next to his bed.
19 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:10:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
He also posted a picture on Instagram a month before the white supremacist rally. It was a car driving into a crowd, and the caption was "you have the right to protest, but I'm late to work." Can't tell you how many times I've seen versions of that same sentiment when people take to the streets to protest. I've heard it here, even, when BLM shut down a freeway protesting a police shooting.
19 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:42:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
Watching the footage of what he did at Charlottesville is so sickening. I have no sympathy for the dude.
19 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:43:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
Enjoy prison, you pudgy neckbeard.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:55:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 6/28/19 - 4:07:12 PM birdsong4j wrote:
This was new to me, from the NBC article about his sentencing: Gasps could be heard Friday among a packed courtroom, which included Heyer's mother, when prosecutors told the judge that a classmate of Fields had testified that during a high school trip to a German concentration camp, Fields had remarked: "This is where the magic happened." Prosecutors said they were told Fields was "like a kid at Disney World" during that trip. They had earlier said that Fields had revered Adolf Hitler, keeping a picture of him next to his bed.

Seems like someone should have intervened back then instead of waiting for him to act on it.
Oh wait. No. We can't deprive Nazis of their hateful free speech because that would be a mean thing to do.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 4:59:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 6/28/19 - 4:07:12 PM birdsong4j wrote:
...... prosecutors told the judge that a classmate of Fields had testified that during a high school trip to a German concentration camp, Fields had remarked: "This is where the magic happened." Prosecutors said they were told Fields was "like a kid at Disney World" during that trip. ...
On Friday 6/28/19 - 4:55:12 PM postallbear wrote:
Seems like someone should have intervened back then instead of waiting for him to act on it. Oh wait. No. We can't deprive Nazis of their hateful free speech because that would be a mean thing to do.


Free speech deprivation isn't wrong because it's a 'mean thing to do', it's because it's their first amendment rights...

...and what you quoted wouldn't apply to free speech deprivation anyhow.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 5:01:20 PM EST (GMT-5)
Saying "this is where the magic happened" at a Nazi concentration camp strikes me as hate speech.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 5:02:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
What would they have done, though? Really? An idiot kid says something vaguely nazi-ish. . .I guess they could have just sent him home or suspended him but I knew a few kids who said idiotic things like that but never actually meant them.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 5:03:52 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 6/28/19 - 4:55:12 PM postallbear wrote:
Seems like someone should have intervened back then instead of waiting for him to act on it. Oh wait. No. We can't deprive Nazis of their hateful free speech because that would be a mean thing to do.


If your response to visiting a Nazi concentration camp is "this is where the magic happened" I'd say a referral to the school counselor is about the least anyone should do.
After Columbine, schools were dragging kids who did nothing more than wear black trench coats into the office and basically interrogating them. Why would someone not act on this HUGE red flag?
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 5:06:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
And to be clear, I'm not equating racism/white supremacy to a pathology, because that's certainly not always the case. But making a statement like that, even in jest (which it doesn't seem to have been), should raise alarms about a teen who potentially has issues feeling empathy. That is a problem.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 5:14:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 6/28/19 - 5:01:20 PM postallbear wrote:
Saying "this is where the magic happened" at a Nazi concentration camp strikes me as hate speech.


...and intervening generally isn't depriving him of that speech, nor is it a government entity silencing that speech.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 5:17:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and speech is already not so free in a school environment.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 5:18:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 6/28/19 - 4:07:12 PM birdsong4j wrote:
revered Adolf Hitler, keeping a picture of him next to his bed.

And his parents were never like "wtf"?
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 8:05:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 6/28/19 - 4:07:12 PM birdsong4j wrote:
revered Adolf Hitler, keeping a picture of him next to his bed.
On Friday 6/28/19 - 5:18:24 PM CuckingFunt wrote:
And his parents were never like "wtf"?

Maybe they're neo nazis too.
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 8:09:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
People who are close often fail to recognize things that might be obvious to more objective observers...
18 days ago - Friday 6/28/19 - 8:11:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 6/28/19 - 4:07:12 PM birdsong4j wrote:
revered Adolf Hitler, keeping a picture of him next to his bed.
On Friday 6/28/19 - 5:18:24 PM CuckingFunt wrote:
And his parents were never like "wtf"?

idk if you've noticed, but we tend to not take white supremacy seriously as a threat in this country in general unless/until someone actually gets killed.



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