We have a Trump megathread, so I think we should have one of these, too. Elizabeth Warren Tulsi Gabbard Kirsten Gillibrand Kamala Harris Pete Buttigieg Did I miss anyone (who`s... Who's Online | Find Members | Private Messages
Questions
Quizzes
Articles
My Journal
Forums
Quests. | Journs. | Gen. | News | Quiz | Links | TV | Music | Movies | Games | Sports | Sug. | Lit. | Jokes | Artcls. | Newb | O.S.
The 2020 Exploratory Thread

Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... 37 Next (showing 1-25 of 925)

Back to Thread List
Bottom Last Post

2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:49:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
We have a Trump megathread, so I think we should have one of these, too.

Elizabeth Warren
Tulsi Gabbard
Kirsten Gillibrand
Kamala Harris
Pete Buttigieg

Did I miss anyone (who's definitely said they're in? Not counting anyone like Biden or Brown, who are still thinking about it).

There's been one poll that I've seen comparing potential candidates to Trump (they didn't go by who's already in, just "possibles" so the names don't quite match up).


Biden 53%, Trump 41%
Sanders 51%, Trump 41%
Harris 48%, Trump 41%
O’Rourke 47%, Trump 41%
Warren 48%, Trump 42%
Booker 47%, Trump 42%
Gillibrand 47%, Trump 42%

**

Trump approval: 40/57

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com...

2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:51:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Oh, I knew I missed one.

Julián Castro
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:58:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think the DNC is going to favor Pete Buttigieg for this election...
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:08:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
Very interesting that no matter who they put Trump up against (including relatively lesser-known candidates, iow the not-Sanders/Biden/Warrens), he's stuck at 41-42%. The Democratic candidates' numbers fluctuate a fair amount depending on who it is, but his don't budge.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:10:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
I liked Elizabeth Warren but on the last few interviews I saw, she now only sticks to her talking points when asked a question instead answering.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:14:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:10:34 AM skirtgirl2 wrote:
I liked Elizabeth Warren but on the last few interviews I saw, she now only sticks to her talking points when asked a question instead answering.

Example? Also, talking points aren't necessarily a bad thing. If they actually answer the question, there's no reason to be upset that a candidate has considered the issue before being asked, and formulated a response. Of course we'd love a candidate to be able to speak off-the-cuff sometimes as well, but a thoughtful, prepared, GOOD answer beats floundering around because you've never thought of how to answer the question.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:23:27 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:49:34 AM birdsong4j wrote:
Did I miss anyone (who's definitely said they're in? Not counting anyone like Biden or Brown, who are still thinking about it).


John Delaney?
Richard Ojeda?
Andrew Yang?

2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:25:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:50:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
Anderson Cooper last night. She was asked what she is doing to help end the shut down and she talked on and on about the damage the shut down is having and how the republicans are bad. Nothing what she is personally doing as a US Senator. A democrat congressman called Trump a grand wizard or something and Cooper asked Warren if that was appropriate for seating member of congress. Warren completely disregarded the question and went on to talk about how Trump said bad racists things.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:55:30 AM EST (GMT-5)
Thanks, I'll find that interview later. Though to be fair, she is a single senator in the minority, so "what are you personally doing to help end the shutdown" is a pretty unfair question. There's not a lot she actually CAN do, especially since she's not even in minority leadership.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 11:03:55 AM EST (GMT-5)
I understand that she is limited but she could talk about her meetings with other senators or bills she supports. Maybe she talked to state leaders to apply pressure. Maybe she has a compromise plan. I don't know if she did any of that or is doing anything other than running for President.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 11:15:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
So I watched that. When she was asked about the shutdown, it was more a question about "the senate" not herself personally. And she laid out two clear ways that the government could be reopened immediately, both of which were correct. She then emphasized the need TO open the government immediately, by reminding people of the pain it's causing hundreds of thousands of workers. I think that answer was completely fine.

In the follow-up, she correctly pointed out that 1. this all started because when Republicans controlled both houses + WH, they couldn't get a budget passed, and 2. McConnell continues to abdicate his responsibility in favor of deferring to Trump. All of that is 100% accurate and exactly what's happening.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 11:50:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:49:34 AM birdsong4j wrote:

Biden 53%, Trump 41% Sanders 51%, Trump 41% Harris 48%, Trump 41% O’Rourke 47%, Trump 41% Warren 48%, Trump 42% Booker 47%, Trump 42% Gillibrand 47%, Trump 42% ** Trump approval: 40/57 [link]

Damn, looks like Trump is going to lose bad again.
This has to be disheartening to him, 2 elections in a row.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 12:04:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 11:15:11 AM birdsong4j wrote:
So I watched that. When she was asked about the shutdown, it was more a question about "the senate" not herself personally. ... All of that is 100% accurate and exactly what's happening.


She could have discussed what she, not the demos are doing. Everyone already knows the issues and each party's positions. She was in Puerto Rico campaigning. She should be in Washington doing her job. I have a friend that works for the FAA and is forced to work without pay and was very disappointed with Warren's non answers. I agree.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 12:16:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 12:04:47 PM skirtgirl2 wrote:
She could have discussed what she, not the demos are doing. She was in Puerto Rico campaigning. She should be in Washington doing her job.

As I said, she's one senator, and not in leadership. And the question wasn't framed as "What are you personally doing" anyway.

The Senate took zero votes yesterday, btw. They convened for like an hour, but weren't officially back to business after the long weekend for MLK day.

She's also made PR a priority for quite a while now, even before the hurricane relief was botched. Since then, she's been calling for more oversight of recovery efforts, and trying to bang the drum about the fact that another hurricane season is fast approaching (this is affected by the shutdown too, btw).

"Campaigning" in PR is a silly thing to say. PR residents can't even vote for president.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 12:19:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:49:34 AM birdsong4j wrote:
Did I miss anyone (who's definitely said they're in? Not counting anyone like Biden or Brown, who are still thinking about it).
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:23:27 AM CowDung wrote:
John Delaney? Richard Ojeda? Andrew Yang?


aren't they seen as more regional candidates rather than ones who have a chance to be nominated? it could be anyone's race still, but the only one i heard of from this list is ojeda.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 12:21:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
And really, SOMEone high up in government needs to stick up for people in PR. They are Americans, but they have very little voice in anything, and I'm not sure even now that many people realize how sh*tty the "relief" efforts were. People were without power and running water for months. Americans. Imagine that happening in Florida or Texas. Over a thousand people died from lack of adequate supplies and medical care. That is MASSIVE.

A senator's job is not just staying in Washington D.C. to vote on stuff. It's also raising the profile of important issues and causes. Warren has been trying to give voice to the voiceless on this issue, even though those people cannot and will not ever be able to vote for her unless they move away from their home. She's one of the only candidates talking about true self-determination for PR, and trying to find a real solution to the financial problems.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 1:14:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:49:34 AM birdsong4j wrote:
Did I miss anyone (who's definitely said they're in? Not counting anyone like Biden or Brown, who are still thinking about it).
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 10:23:27 AM CowDung wrote:
John Delaney? Richard Ojeda? Andrew Yang?
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 12:19:53 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
aren't they seen as more regional candidates rather than ones who have a chance to be nominated? it could be anyone's race still, but the only one i heard of from this list is ojeda.


The white male candidates don't play well with the Dem tendency to play identity politics, so they don't stand a chance, but they are in the race so I brought their names up.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 1:25:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 1:14:53 PM CowDung wrote:
The white male candidates don't play well with the Dem tendency to play identity politics, so they don't stand a chance, but they are in the race so I brought their names up.


On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 9:49:34 AM birdsong4j wrote:
Biden 53%, Trump 41% Sanders 51%, Trump 41% O’Rourke 47%, Trump 41%

???
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 1:26:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
lmao, those known white guys, Richard Ojeda and Andrew Yang.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 2:01:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
I’m kinda confused on people’s wording sometimes

did sherrod brown say he was putting together an exploratory committee or is he exploring putting together an exploratory committee

I’m still not sure who my number one is, but my rough order of people running or likely to run is

kamala harris
elizabeth warren
beto
brown
castro
booker
biden

as far as I’m concerned the rest need not bother
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 2:08:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh but bother they will!
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 2:12:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 1:26:02 PM birdsong4j wrote:
lmao, those known white guys, Richard Ojeda and Andrew Yang.


My 'The White candidates' wasn't intended to be inclusive of all the candidates I named. Besides, Ojeda looks pretty white, appears to be male, and voted fro Trump. Maybe I should run some DNA testing before making making assumptions about his race...

2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 2:33:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 2:01:45 PM Disappears wrote:
I’m kinda confused on people’s wording sometimes did sherrod brown...


Brown is going on a speaking tour of all the early states (NH, SC, IA, +NV). So he's not formed his exploratory committee yet, but it seems a pretty much foregone conclusion.

I also don't know who my #1 is, but I have major questions for Harris on criminal justice reform and her time as a prosecutor. She needs to answer for her record in that area for sure. Lukewarm on Brown, but he could possibly win me over. Biden would get my general election vote, but he's my least favorite off your list. Amy Klobuchar is another name I'd like to see enter.

I'm fine with plenty of people getting in early, tbh. Lots of ideas to go around, and hopefully, whoever the eventual nominee is, they'll incorporate good ones from other candidates.
2 months ago - Wednesday 1/23/19 - 2:34:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 1:26:02 PM birdsong4j wrote:
lmao, those known white guys, Richard Ojeda and Andrew Yang.
On Wednesday 1/23/19 - 2:12:50 PM CowDung wrote:
My 'The White candidates' wasn't intended to be inclusive of all the candidates I named. Besides, Ojeda looks pretty white, appears to be male, and voted fro Trump. Maybe I should run some DNA testing before making making assumptions about his race...


No DNA testing necessary, but a whole minute of research before making yourself look dumb by spouting off about white guys and "identity politics" would've told you that Ojeda's grandfather was an immigrant from Mexico (undocumented, iirc), and that his father was born in the US but mostly raised in Mexico as well.

Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... 37 Next (showing 1-25 of 925)



You need to be logged in to post a reply

New to YT? Create a Free Account ~ Have an Account? Log In

Back to Thread List
Top

 
Edit