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Former Serbian commander Ratko Mladic convicted of war crimes

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16 days ago - Friday 11/24/17 - 8:24:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
The former Bosnian Serb commander Ratko Mladic, nicknamed the ‘butcher of Bosnia’, has been sentenced to life imprisonment after being convicted of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

More than 20 years after the Srebrenica massacre, Mladic was found guilty at the United Nations-backed international criminal tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in The Hague of 10 offences involving extermination, murder and persecution of civilian populations.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...
14 days ago - Sunday 11/26/17 - 10:44:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
I hope this helps people in the area to move on. 20 years of waiting for justice is a long time ...
14 days ago - Sunday 11/26/17 - 11:29:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 11/26/17 - 10:44:50 AM Matthias wrote:
I hope this helps people in the area to move on. 20 years of waiting for justice is a long time ...


even if he's behind bars, he still has a lot of supporters.

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...

"Mladic got largely what he wanted: a Bosnian Serb statelet from which almost every non-Serb was banished in 1995, to which only a bold few precariously return. He is adored, his portrait adorns bars and office walls in Bosnia and Serbia, his name sung at football matches."
14 days ago - Sunday 11/26/17 - 10:35:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 11/26/17 - 10:44:50 AM Matthias wrote:
I hope this helps people in the area to move on. 20 years of waiting for justice is a long time ...

I've been nearby the past couple of summers. The cultural war is still going on. My own view is that breaking up Jugoslavia was a mistake.
13 days ago - Monday 11/27/17 - 11:51:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Sunday 11/26/17 - 10:44:50 AM Matthias wrote:
I hope this helps people in the area to move on. 20 years of waiting for justice is a long time ...
On Sunday 11/26/17 - 10:35:13 PM aldod wrote:
I've been nearby the past couple of summers. The cultural war is still going on. My own view is that breaking up Jugoslavia was a mistake.

I would rather say putting Yugoslavia together was the first mistake in a long row of mistakes ....
11 days ago - Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:44:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's good to see that justice isn't just there for one side and I won't shed a tear over any Croatian war criminal but THIS comes as a surprise ...
11 days ago - Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:49:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:44:07 PM Matthias wrote:
It's good to see that justice isn't just there for one side and I won't shed a tear over any Croatian war criminal but [link]comes as a surprise ...


now that's pretty bold. i think he knew he was going to be found guilty. but doing it right in front of the judges, that's something i don't think anyone would have expected.

as for mladic, i don't know if the victims and the victims' families can really move on if people are still treating him like some sort of hero to this day. for me, that raises concern. but as they say, time heals all wounds, so it might take a while for this all to go away.
11 days ago - Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:53:55 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:44:07 PM Matthias wrote:
It's good to see that justice isn't just there for one side and I won't shed a tear over any Croatian war criminal but [link]comes as a surprise ...

Wow that is wild. How in the world did he manage to sneak that bottle into The Hague, though? Seems like they might have a few things to answer for.
11 days ago - Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:58:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:44:07 PM Matthias wrote:
It's good to see that justice isn't just there for one side and I won't shed a tear over any Croatian war criminal but [link]comes as a surprise ...
On Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:53:55 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Wow that is wild. How in the world did he manage to sneak that bottle into The Hague, though? Seems like they might have a few things to answer for.


Small bottle. THey probably thought it was medicine or something like that...
11 days ago - Wednesday 11/29/17 - 3:02:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:44:07 PM Matthias wrote:
It's good to see that justice isn't just there for one side and I won't shed a tear over any Croatian war criminal but [link]comes as a surprise ...
On Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:49:55 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
now that's pretty bold. i think he knew he was going to be found guilty. but doing it right in front of the judges, that's something i don't think anyone would have expected. as for mladic, i don't know if the victims and the victims' families can really move on if people are still treating him like some sort of hero to this day. for me, that raises concern. but as they say, time heals all wounds, so it might take a while for this all to go away.


i stand corrected. he was already found guilty. but still, to do that right in the middle of an international court? shocking.
11 days ago - Wednesday 11/29/17 - 3:03:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's an international court where they routinely try war criminals. There shouldn't be any guesswork when it comes to what prisoners are bringing in.
"What's that bottle he's got? Oh, must be medicine" could easily become someone throwing acid in the face of a court official.
11 days ago - Wednesday 11/29/17 - 3:04:32 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 11/29/17 - 2:44:07 PM Matthias wrote:
It's good to see that justice isn't just there for one side and I won't shed a tear over any Croatian war criminal but [link]comes as a surprise ...

Going out like Goering doesn’t help the « not a criminal » claim.
11 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:54:02 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 11/27/17 - 11:51:50 AM Matthias wrote:
I would rather say putting Yugoslavia together was the first mistake in a long row of mistakes ....

Prior to the creation of Jugoslavia, the area was subject to almost continuous warfare. Actual declared wars involving national armies occurred in 1878, 1885, 1912, 1913 and most famously 1914, but revolts, undeclared conflicts, border skirmishes and such were pretty much continuous. The creation of the unified south Slavic state put an end to that until WWII.
11 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 4:31:54 AM EST (GMT-5)
Any other time, this would be big news. In 2017, a convicted war criminal drinking poison at his sentencing hearing isn’t even the craziest thing that happened the day of.
10 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 10:04:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 11/27/17 - 11:51:50 AM Matthias wrote:
I would rather say putting Yugoslavia together was the first mistake in a long row of mistakes ....
On Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:54:02 AM aldod wrote:
Prior to the creation of Jugoslavia, the area was subject to almost continuous warfare. Actual declared wars involving national armies occurred in 1878, 1885, 1912, 1913 and most famously 1914, but revolts, undeclared conflicts, border skirmishes and such were pretty much continuous. The creation of the unified south Slavic state put an end to that until WWII.

In French, the area is nicknamed the « powder keg » of Europe.
10 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 10:18:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 11/27/17 - 11:51:50 AM Matthias wrote:
I would rather say putting Yugoslavia together was the first mistake in a long row of mistakes ....
On Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:54:02 AM aldod wrote:
Prior to the creation of Jugoslavia, the area was subject to almost continuous warfare. Actual declared wars involving national armies occurred in 1878, 1885, 1912, 1913 and most famously 1914, but revolts, undeclared conflicts, border skirmishes and such were pretty much continuous. The creation of the unified south Slavic state put an end to that until WWII.
On Thursday 11/30/17 - 10:04:17 AM Abzurd wrote:
In French, the area is nicknamed the « powder keg » of Europe.


In English as well.
10 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:14:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 11/27/17 - 11:51:50 AM Matthias wrote:
I would rather say putting Yugoslavia together was the first mistake in a long row of mistakes ....
On Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:54:02 AM aldod wrote:
Prior to the creation of Jugoslavia, the area was subject to almost continuous warfare. Actual declared wars involving national armies occurred in 1878, 1885, 1912, 1913 and most famously 1914, but revolts, undeclared conflicts, border skirmishes and such were pretty much continuous. The creation of the unified south Slavic state put an end to that until WWII.

Yet it was a forced union under Serbian r
domination and as such bound to end up like it did.
10 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:17:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
It was my understanding that the whole thing held together only because of Tito.
10 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:48:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
That's definitely true for the post WWII era.
10 days ago - Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:54:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 11/30/17 - 12:17:50 PM Abzurd wrote:
It was my understanding that the whole thing held together only because of Tito.


Much like he did for the Jackson 5...



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