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Robert Mugabe under house arrest in Not-a-Coup

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25 days ago - Wednesday 11/15/17 - 1:14:11 PM EST (GMT-5)
Military forces have taken control of Harare and placed aging President Robert Mugabe under house arrest.

His wife Grace is believed to have fled the country.

Not a coup

Military leaders are denying that they are attempting a coup, speculation is that they want to restore the recently sacked Vice -President to the government and prevent Grace Mugabe from having any increased influence over the country.
25 days ago - Wednesday 11/15/17 - 1:16:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh my! I didn't realise things were progressing this quickly

Interesting times
25 days ago - Wednesday 11/15/17 - 1:21:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
MMW south africa is going to grant mugabe asylum

Ugh
25 days ago - Wednesday 11/15/17 - 1:22:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 11/15/17 - 1:21:06 PM spacepeanut wrote:
MMW south africa is going to grant mugabe asylum Ugh

If this is not a coup, why would he need asylum?
(I'm aware that it looks very much like a coup)
25 days ago - Wednesday 11/15/17 - 1:30:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah it looks pretty much like a coup? But yeah idk it's all kind of weird and sudden atm it seems. I mean just this afternoon I was just reading about unrest so who knows what will happen

I guess I mean I'm just expressing my disgust at the fact that if things get bad he'll come over here and our government will welcome him with open arms even though he is just one of the worst people on the planet
25 days ago - Wednesday 11/15/17 - 3:17:19 PM EST (GMT-5)
Hopefully this doesn't become officially a coup, but I can't imagine Mugabe going quietly.
25 days ago - Wednesday 11/15/17 - 3:58:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
Mugabe is just a figurehead now. He's not far off 94. This is all about who is going to pull the strings until the jelly falls out of his head.
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:24:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
so when does it become a coup? the military is clearly in control here, they want to restore the vice president and don't want his wife to assume power.
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:29:20 AM EST (GMT-5)
I guess if they ousted him and the military took control

But it's just this weird scenario where they're just holding him hostage and not doing anything else

Where it moves from here will be the interesting part

But thank drat it won't be grace Mugabe in power anytime soon let's hope
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:30:12 AM EST (GMT-5)
Cos she is a drating idiot who genuinely has no political interests besides travelling to other countries and buying Louis Vuitton
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:32:28 AM EST (GMT-5)
Speaking about being held hostage there's no thread about the Saudi Arabia Lebanon thing
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 10:48:57 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:24:25 AM Inquizitor2 wrote:
so when does it become a coup? the military is clearly in control here, they want to restore the vice president and don't want his wife to assume power.

Well they aren't actually trying to kick Mugabe out. That's when I would consider it a coup. Deposing the actual head of state (however much of a figurehead he may be at this point).
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 11:51:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
With a coup, the force enacting the coup seize power for themselves. In this case they seem more intent on preventing Grace Mugabe becoming the defacto leader and perhaps rostoring the former VP to his post.
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:52:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
i'm sure at that age no one really wants to be tasked with running a country. i hope the people don't continue to suffer.
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:55:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 11/16/17 - 12:52:31 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
i'm sure at that age no one really wants to be tasked with running a country. i hope the people don't continue to suffer.

This makes no sense. Of course Mugabe still wants to be head of the country.

Also, his wife is way younger than him. I think she's in her 50s.
24 days ago - Thursday 11/16/17 - 3:59:54 PM EST (GMT-5)
This is the problem with progress. In the last century most African nations appointed presidents for life.

Transition was simple, they just killed the President, thereby bringing his term of office to an end. There was never any issue with a President getting too old to serve.
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 12:41:20 AM EST (GMT-5)
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 12:42:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
HARARE - The next few days in Zimbabwe appear unclear as there’s been no reported deal between President Robert Mugabe and the army that took control earlier this week.

The 93-year-old leader, known to be a tough negotiator, appears to be refusing to step down.

There were reports of wild celebrations on Thursday night after claims President Mugabe had agreed to step down in return for a safe exit for him and his family.
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 12:42:38 AM EST (GMT-5)
But these now appear to have been premature.

There’s still no news of a deal between Mugabe and defence forces commander Constantino Chiwenga, who were photographed for the first time together since the takeover.

They show Chiwenga and Mugabe smiling and shaking hands.

Two of President Jacob Zuma’s envoys met with Mugabe and Chiwenga on Thursday, but there are no details on the outcome of that meeting.
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 1:15:37 AM EST (GMT-5)
I also just want to say I like the word not-a-coup
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 2:45:01 AM EST (GMT-5)
It's from the French Coup de n'est pas
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 5:59:36 AM EST (GMT-5)
I just had an interesting convo about he coup but I don't have a media source to back it up yet

Anyway the SADC (south Africa, Botswana, zim, namibia.... Basically all the southern African countries have a right political allied union thing) and the AU do not in any way want to infer what is happening is a coup. It's not something they want to signal to the international community

Hence coup-not-coup
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 9:51:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/17/17 - 2:45:01 AM Boredofu wrote:
It's from the French Coup de n'est pas

Hahahaha
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 12:05:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/17/17 - 5:59:36 AM spacepeanut wrote:
Anyway the SADC (south Africa, Botswana, zim, namibia.... Basically all the southern African countries have a right political allied union thing) and the AU do not in any way want to infer what is happening is a coup. It's not something they want to signal to the international community Hence coup-not-coup


That ship has kind of sailed, imo...I mean when you've got a uniformed soldier suddenly delivering your nightly news and saying there's definitely not a coup...
23 days ago - Friday 11/17/17 - 12:11:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
Lol yep

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