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AL GOP senate candidate Roy Moore accused of making sexual advances toward underage girls

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10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:34:18 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:24:45 PM chips2001 wrote:
Man, the AoC is so troublesome, stopping old guys from having sex with kids. Yep, it's definitely the AoC that's the problem, here.


Is it really fair to compare prepubescent children with teenagers when it comes to sexual relationships?
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:35:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
It's kinda like how it's more acceptable for the 15 year old I mentioned earlier to have sex with a 14 year old than it is for him to have sex with a 4 year old...
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:37:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
a real quote from Roy Moore when asked if he "regularly dated teen girls when he was in his 30s"

"I don't remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother."
Gross. Gross gross gross.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:38:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:24:45 PM chips2001 wrote:
Man, the AoC is so troublesome, stopping old guys from having sex with kids. Yep, it's definitely the AoC that's the problem, here.
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:34:18 PM CowDung wrote:
Is it really fair to compare prepubescent children with teenagers when it comes to sexual relationships?

A 14-year-old and a 32-year-old is not a "sexual relationship." It is not a relationship. It is f*cking statutory rape.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:50:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:37:41 PM birdsong4j wrote:
a real quote from Roy Moore when asked if he "regularly dated teen girls when he was in his 30s" "I don't remember ever dating any girl without the permission of her mother." Gross. Gross gross gross.


Yeah that makes it way better.

Sounds like the mother should have lost that custody hearing she had her daughter.

Maybe the late 70’s was a different time but who let’s an adult male stranger who you litteraly just met at the court house watch your teenage daughter?
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:53:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
How close were they to Appalachia?
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:56:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't think he meant the 14-year-old. As far as I've seen, he denies that he even met her.
(You're right that it is f*cking weird for a parent to let a stranger watch their kid like that, but it's also true that Moore was the Assistant DA at the time, and they were at the courthouse. That engenders a lot more trust than some random guy at a 7-11 or something.)

My whole point is that if you're 30some years old and need a parent's PERMISSION to date someone, you have no f*cking business dating that person to start with.
It's always nice to have parents' *blessing* or approval of a relationship (even when you're both well into adulthood, that's true, at least for people who like their families), but if the person is young enough that you need actual permission? You have a problem.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:57:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:53:46 PM CowDung wrote:
How close were they to Appalachia?

F*ck you. I'm from Appalachia and I'm the one of the two of us NOT defending grown men dating teenage girls.

F*ck off with your idiotic stereotyping of Appalachia. It's not funny, or cute; it's just rude and ignorant.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 8:58:46 PM EST (GMT-5)
First pool since the news broke has Moore and Jones tied at aprox. 46%

So more is already dropping in the polls. I don’t think continued scrutiny is going to do him many favors.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:05:53 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:58:46 PM Rik_Khaos wrote:
First pool since the news broke has Moore and Jones tied at aprox. 46% So more is already dropping in the polls. I don’t think continued scrutiny is going to do him many favors.

Ehhhh. I don't doubt this hurts him, but I am really wary of any polling that's done so soon after a story like this breaks.
It could also go the other way as time goes on - a quick, sharp dip now, then a gradual increase from that low point as the news gets older and fades from the forefront of people's minds.
You'd like to think that wouldn't happen with literal child molestation allegations, but then, you'd also like to think that his support would be at or near 0% because of something like this, and that's clearly not true.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:14:06 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:53:46 PM CowDung wrote:
How close were they to Appalachia?
On Friday 11/10/17 - 8:57:33 PM birdsong4j wrote:
F*ck you. I'm from Appalachia and I'm the one of the two of us NOT defending grown men dating teenage girls. F*ck off with your idiotic stereotyping of Appalachia. It's not funny, or cute; it's just rude and ignorant.


It's where I grew up.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:15:47 PM EST (GMT-5)
Then you should really know better.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:24:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 9:15:47 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Then you should really know better.


Lots of teenaged mothers that married young...

10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:28:23 PM EST (GMT-5)
I know a bunch of girls who got pregnant and married pretty soon after high school, too.

What I DON'T know is anyone whose parents would have let them date a grown-ass 30-something-year-old man at the age of 14. Or 16. Or 17. There would be no "permission," except maybe their fathers giving the man in question permission to look down the barrel of a freakin' shotgun if they tried it.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:31:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
...and in Alabama, 14 year olds could legally marry in 1979.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:34:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
For people living in poverty, the marrying off of daughters was commonly considered their way to help them live a better life...
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:34:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
I believe I said earlier in this thread that law (and application of law) doesn't always align with what's right or wrong.

Child marriage is wrong. End of story. If you think you're doing yourself any favors by bringing up the fact that it's legal for parents to marry off their daughters (because it does overwhelmingly affect young girls) when they're barely in high school, you are dead wrong.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:36:17 PM EST (GMT-5)
Celebrate diversity and embrace a culture other than your own, Bird.

10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:37:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/10/17 - 9:36:17 PM CowDung wrote:
Celebrate diversity and embrace a culture other than your own, Bird.

F*ck off, you disingenuous asshole. Keep defending pedophiles, and the practices of treating women and girls as property to be traded.
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:38:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
Your privilege is showing...
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:44:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
There's a lot of dissonance between history and modernity involved with the defence of people drating little girls but end of the day we don't die at thirty any more. As a species we've progressed and using a vestige of some tribal necessity to defend Makin babies with babies, which is all the aoc stuff is, makes you a goddamn weirdo
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:46:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
You may not agree with it, but it could explain why a parent would give permission and/or encourage a 30 year old (with good income potential) to date their 14 year old daughter...
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:47:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
They would also be considered f*ckin psychopaths
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:48:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
Oh good, we're at "It's OK because he has money (or will soon)."
10 days ago - Friday 11/10/17 - 9:48:48 PM EST (GMT-5)
I mean where's the end of this slope cd. Cause you're sliding into sex slaves are okay as long as they're fed well territorys

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