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Last ditch effort to repeal ACA

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2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 2:28:44 PM EST (GMT-5)
While other Republican plans essentially create a poorly funded version of the Affordable Care Act, Graham-Cassidy blows it up. The bill offered by Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham and Bill Cassidy takes money from states that did a good job getting residents covered under Obamacare and gives it to states that did not. It eliminates an expansion of the Medicaid program that covers millions of Americans in favor of block grants. States aren’t required to use the money to get people covered or to help subsidize low- and middle-income earners, as Obamacare does now.

https://www.vox.com/health-care/201...
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 2:29:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
Plus, the bill includes other drastic changes that appeared in some previous bills. Insurers in the private marketplace would be allowed to discriminate against people with preexisting conditions, for example. And it would eliminate the individual mandate as other bills would have, but this time there is no replacement. Most analysts agree that would inject chaos into the individual market.
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 2:30:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...

this is a sad article where 9 republican senators are asked direct questions about this bill
their responses are pathetic
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 9:36:07 PM EST (GMT-5)
This thing is crazy, and I have called both my senators, plus Collins, Murkowski, and McCain's offices every day this week (the last three told me they actually welcome comments from out of state!).

It does no good for anyone, really. I'm almost positive the only reason they're even trying to pass it is that the Koch donor network pledged like $400 million to republican candidates for 2018, but ONLY if they get ACA repeal done. It's straight-up money grubbing with no thought for how the law will affect actual people.
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 10:00:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
Also: the house has said they WILL pass this if it gets to them, and Trump said he would sign it. So it is up to your senators pretty much entirely. This is the only way to kill this abomination of a bill, so CALL THEM.
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 10:10:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
my senator put the bill forward

the other one is a complete nut job who would vote for this thing no matter what
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 10:31:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
Mine are both Dems (and solid No votes), but I call them anyway because they should know people are behind them. I think all the solid Yes votes should be hearing the opposite from their constituents. Just because they're going to vote for it doesn't mean they should feel good about that choice.
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 10:36:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
By the way, this affects you even if you get coverage through your employer. The annual and lifetime caps can still apply to you. You're at the mercy of a) your state government, and b) whichever insurer your employer gets their group plan through.

Your state can also choose to not require plans to cover essential health benefits (EHBs). That applies to your employer plan just as much as someone's marketplace plan. You'll be just as f*cked.
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 11:27:49 PM EST (GMT-5)
Who cares, they've already failed at this how many times?
2 months ago - Wednesday 9/20/17 - 11:46:21 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Wednesday 9/20/17 - 11:27:49 PM Ahmed wrote:
Who cares, they've already failed at this how many times?

Every American should care. Just because previous efforts failed doesn't mean this will. McConnell has scheduled a vote for next week, which says to me that he thinks he has the votes. He was embarrassed last time when McCain was a last-minute No - he likely would just not cal a vote on another bill unless he thought it would pass.

Don't you live in Maine? One of your senators (Collins) is on the fence/uncommitted.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 12:30:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
What's this about "hurry while we still can do it with a simple majority "?
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:06:28 AM EST (GMT-5)
Holy poo, those interviews make it so transparent how much politics is broken
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:06:34 AM EST (GMT-5)
Collins voted against the last one and hates Trump. There's more Reps willing to contradict Trump now post Charlottesville anyway.

I know I'm usually right there spewing hatred but I'm so exhausted by the hysteria. The Russian investigation is going nowhere, repealing Obamacare is going nowhere, I just don't care.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 6:55:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 9/21/17 - 12:30:22 AM Abzurd wrote:
What's this about "hurry while we still can do it with a simple majority "?

past the end of september they can no longer only do it with 50 votes

they are using some kind of bs called budget reconciliation to get around a filibuster
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 6:56:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
this is not hysteria
there's a very real threat being posed by this legislation
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 7:00:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 9/21/17 - 6:56:59 AM Disappears wrote:
this is not hysteria there's a very real threat being posed by this legislation

Right
But they've failed at this several times already. They've had control of all 3 branches of government for a year and accomplished.... nothing. I'm not concerned this will pass.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 7:09:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think that kind of complacency is how trump was elected... if everyone thinks it doesn't matter (why other going to vote, Hillary has it won) then it will be easy to start pushing this sht through.

I was really hoping that kind of attitude doesn't stick to people when mid terms come. The "he isn't able to get anything passed anyways so why bother".

Keep pressure, keep fighting.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:05:35 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:06:34 AM Ahmed wrote:
Collins voted against the last one and hates Trump. There's more Reps willing to contradict Trump now post Charlottesville anyway.

You are very, very naive if you think "willing to criticize the president's statements on white supremacy" translates to "willing to vote against repealing ACA, which they've been campaigning on for the past seven years."
Take a look at the solid Yes votes on this bill - quite a few of them had negative things to say about Trump's Charlottesville comments. They're still voting for this. The two are not connected.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:11:29 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 9/21/17 - 7:00:10 AM Ahmed wrote:
They've had control of all 3 branches of government for a year and accomplished.... nothing. I'm not concerned this will pass.

Well you should be. It takes three republican No votes, which is exactly what they got for the last one (the only one out of the series of repeal bills that was ever expected to get close to passing, btw - the others failed by larger margins, as expected). Any one of those Nos could turn to a Yes under the right circumstances - McCain is especially vulnerable to that. Collins and Murkowski less so, because I don't think they really want to gut PP funding, even for a year - but the pull of "you only get $400M in Koch donor money if you pass this" is likely very strong. EVen if they're not up in '18, they know they'd be losing that $ for other reps.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:17:59 PM EST (GMT-5)

Also, this:
On Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:06:34 AM Ahmed wrote:
The Russian investigation is going nowhere.

is just false. Go check out some of the latest news on Paul Manafort.
Just because a good, thorough investigation takes time, and there aren't leaks every other day, doesn't mean it's "going nowhere."
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:21:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:11:29 PM birdsong4j wrote:
but the pull of "you only get $400M in Koch donor money if you pass this" is likely very strong. EVen if they're not up in '18, they know they'd be losing that $ for other reps.

I honestly don't delve into politics much because it just pisses me off, but how is stuff like this even legal?
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:25:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Thursday 9/21/17 - 7:09:21 AM petitefleur wrote:
I think that kind of complacency is how trump was elected... if everyone thinks it doesn't matter (why other going to vote, Hillary has it won) then it will be easy to start pushing this sht through. I was really hoping that kind of attitude doesn't stick to people when mid terms come. The "he isn't able to get anything passed anyways so why bother". Keep pressure, keep fighting.


Absolutely.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:33:45 PM EST (GMT-5)
i think a combination of complacency and frustration with establishment politicians is what got trump elected, plus the alternative wasn't a lot better. but that's for another time and place.

i actually agree with ahmed here. if they didn't pass it before, what chance do they have of passing it now? trump botched the charlottesville response, and i think it probably forced republicans to think about quite a few issues.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:46:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
You guys are not thinking like politicians. Charlottesville will have absolutely ZERO to do with ANY republican's vote on this bill. None whatsoever.
2 months ago - Thursday 9/21/17 - 1:56:01 PM EST (GMT-5)
As for what chance do they have now? Again: three GOP No votes are needed. Three is exactly what we got last time. It is that close.

It's terrifying to me how much you guys are underestimating the chances of this actually passing. If it passes the senate, it WILL pass the house, and Trump WILL sign it into law. This has a VERY REAL chance of happening. It is f*cking terrifying for anyone who has any pre-existing condition.

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