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Former Vice President Joe Biden tops potential Democratic nominee poll for 2020

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4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 2:27:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
Former Vice President Joe Biden tops a list of prospective Democratic candidates for the 2020 presidential race in a new survey.

Seventy four percent of Democrats in the Morning Consult/POLITICO poll out Monday view Biden favorably. Progressive Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass), with a favorable rating from 51 percent of Democrats, follows Biden in second place.

"I have no intention of running for president but I'm a great respecter of fate,” Biden told NPR last week.
"I don't have any plans to do it, but I'm not promising I wouldn't do it,” he continued.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 2:33:39 PM EST (GMT-5)
Biden is too 'white male majority' to get the Dem nomination. I'm thinking that their next candidate will probably be a gay Hispanic...
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 2:37:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:33:39 PM CowDung wrote:
Biden is too 'white male majority' to get the Dem nomination. I'm thinking that their next candidate will probably be a gay Hispanic...


kinda surprising that elizabeth warren didn't top this poll. she's more in line with their party platform.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 2:59:42 PM EST (GMT-5)
1. I'm pretty sure this has been true in every poll on the subject since the 2016 election.

2. Bernie Sanders is a white male and he nearly won the nomination last time.

3. Warren has said time and again that she absolutely hates campaigning, and doesn't want to run for president.

4. Biden is 74 years old NOW. Expecting that he'll actually run when he's 77-78 is silly.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:06:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:37:13 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
kinda surprising that elizabeth warren didn't top this poll. she's more in line with their party platform.

I think you only think this because a) you live in CA, which is super liberal, and b) you spend time here on YT, where the demographic skews younger.
A lot of people who vote Dem are to the right of Warren/Sanders/etc., and more in line with someone like Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden.
Warren would be a good candidate as far as I'M concerned (at least to the extent that I agree with her views on many things), but I know damn well I'm to the left of the majority of the party on a lot of things.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:08:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
The quality old white dude window was really only open for 2016.

Maybe some fresh 70s will enter the scene in the coming years.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:13:30 PM EST (GMT-5)
i think warren would appeal to CA liberals if she actually does run. but there are lots of people who can run in 2020. i think we'll probably have a clearer view of that after the 2018 midterm elections.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:16:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:33:39 PM CowDung wrote:
Biden is too 'white male majority' to get the Dem nomination. I'm thinking that their next candidate will probably be a gay Hispanic...
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:37:13 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
kinda surprising that elizabeth warren didn't top this poll. she's more in line with their party platform.

It's probably a name recognition thing at this point: since nobody's campaigning yet, the recent ex-VP has a big head start just from that job. That was enough to get Gore and Bush Sr the nomination, but usually the winner will come from somewhere else and pick up enough support themselves - Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush Jr, Obama, Trump - none had the kind of national recognition being VP gives when they started out.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:19:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:13:30 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
i think warren would appeal to CA liberals if she actually does run. but there are lots of people who can run in 2020. i think we'll probably have a clearer view of that after the 2018 midterm elections.

Every conversation about presidential before the midterms (for either party) is pretty much just idle speculation anyway; on that, we can agree. A lot can happen in 2-4 years.

Cory Booker has been named a lot, and I like him on SOME things, but his record on Rx drug reform is far less than stellar.

Kamala Harris is becoming more well-known, and there are definitely positives for her. I'm personally troubled by some things in her record as a D.A. (especially surrounding sentencing reform, and sexwork, but idk if there's actually any mainstream candidate who's with me on that).
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:24:50 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:59:42 PM birdsong4j wrote:
2. Bernie Sanders is a white male and he nearly won the nomination last time. .


The thing that stopped him was the Democratic party. They seem to favor running candidates based on minority status rather than popular appeal...
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:25:38 PM EST (GMT-5)
Also, people really loved Biden as VP. Like REALLY loved him. I'm sure that's contributing to his popularity as a potential future presidential candidate.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:26:34 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:59:42 PM birdsong4j wrote:
2. Bernie Sanders is a white male and he nearly won the nomination last time. .
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:24:50 PM CowDung wrote:
The thing that stopped him was the Democratic party. They seem to favor running candidates based on minority status rather than popular appeal...

Yes, the thing that stopped him was the Democratic party. Because not enough people voted for him to win the nomination.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:49:25 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:33:39 PM CowDung wrote:
Biden is too 'white male majority' to get the Dem nomination. I'm thinking that their next candidate will probably be a gay Hispanic...
On Monday 6/19/17 - 2:37:13 PM Inquizitor2 wrote:
kinda surprising that elizabeth warren didn't top this poll. she's more in line with their party platform.
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:16:13 PM jas88 wrote:
It's probably a name recognition thing at this point: Trump - none had the kind of national recognition being VP gives when they started out.

I beg to differ on this one
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:51:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:25:38 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Also, people really loved Biden as VP. Like REALLY loved him. I'm sure that's contributing to his popularity as a potential future presidential candidate.

I think this is mostly because of memes.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:53:09 PM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah, Trump had a ton of name recognition before he started running, just not as a politician (although he'd inserted himself in politics a few times before then, like in the '80s, briefly in 2000, and pushing the Obama birther bullsh*t).

I would bet more people knew who he was than knew who any other 2016 republican nominee was.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:54:51 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:25:38 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Also, people really loved Biden as VP. Like REALLY loved him. I'm sure that's contributing to his popularity as a potential future presidential candidate.
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:51:09 PM CRA-Z_HEART wrote:
I think this is mostly because of memes.

I'm sure that helped, but he was popular even with non-meme people. Like my mom really liked him, and for completely un-meme-related reasons.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:57:59 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:24:50 PM CowDung wrote:
The thing that stopped him was the Democratic party. They seem to favor running candidates based on minority status rather than popular appeal...
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:26:34 PM birdsong4j wrote:
Yes, the thing that stopped him was the Democratic party. Because not enough people voted for him to win the nomination.

the hillary clinton favoritism definitely didn't help his cause

I'm not saying he should have won based on votes, but the leadership definitely did their best to keep him from winning




in the case of hillary winning, that had nothing to do with whatever minority bullsh-t cd is trying to push and everything to do with being the establishment pick
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 3:58:56 PM EST (GMT-5)
2012 was my first election I could vote in so it was the first one I really paid attention to.

And I gotta say.

I did love watching Biden tear Paul Ryan a new one in the VP debate.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 4:04:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:26:34 PM birdsong4j wrote:
in the case of hillary winning, that had nothing to do with whatever minority bullsh-t cd is trying to push and everything to do with being the establishment pick


Think a bit about why she was the 'establishment pick'...

The Dem party thought that identity politics was the key to winning. If you don't support Hillary, you are obviously a misogynist...



4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 4:07:26 PM EST (GMT-5)
I wish he would have ran last time.

Maybe we wouldn't be in this orange pickle.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 4:26:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wait, did I just time travel?

It's still 2017 right?

So who gives a sh*t?
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 4:27:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
I don't care who runs but the first one to say they have a clear vision for 2020 I will personally assisinate.
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 4:28:24 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:26:34 PM birdsong4j wrote:
in the case of hillary winning, that had nothing to do with whatever minority bullsh-t cd is trying to push and everything to do with being the establishment pick
On Monday 6/19/17 - 4:04:13 PM CowDung wrote:
Think a bit about why she was the 'establishment pick'... The Dem party thought that identity politics was the key to winning. If you don't support Hillary, you are obviously a misogynist...

it's because her last name was clinton

if you want to get upset about identity politics, go back to 2008 when palin was put on the ticket to try and offset obama's blackness
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 4:36:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Monday 6/19/17 - 3:26:34 PM birdsong4j wrote:
in the case of hillary winning, that had nothing to do with whatever minority bullsh-t cd is trying to push and everything to do with being the establishment pick
On Monday 6/19/17 - 4:04:13 PM CowDung wrote:
Think a bit about why she was the 'establishment pick'... The Dem party thought that identity politics was the key to winning. If you don't support Hillary, you are obviously a misogynist...
On Monday 6/19/17 - 4:28:24 PM Disappears wrote:
it's because her last name was clinton if you want to get upset about identity politics, go back to 2008 when palin was put on the ticket to try and offset obama's blackness


Condi Rice would have been the obvious counter to Obama's blackness...
4 days ago - Monday 6/19/17 - 4:40:05 PM EST (GMT-5)
but she's black
republicans wouldn't be able to handle that

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