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11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:19:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:11:50 AM redreine wrote:
Doesn't make any difference whatsoever, so I don't see why you and others bring it up The simple fact is, more of the American population voted for her, thus America voted for her. The electoral college put him in office, not the American people


It is brought up because California is one of those states that is so heavily Democrat that Republicans may not even bother to vote. Clinton lost the popular vote by 1 million votes in the other 49 states...
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:21:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
I tried to find a definitive list that tells all the things mentioned, but I'm really not finding much
Thanks for the link, cd
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:22:25 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 6:38:23 AM spacepeanut wrote:
Dacash, all actors have no credibility?
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 6:45:03 AM dacash wrote:
No credibility might be putting it too strongly. But as far as what they publicly project for consumption by you and I? Yeah, its a fantasy. That's what they do for a living.


Like Ronald Reagan and to a certain extent, TV personality, Donald Trunp.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:22:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 6:46:47 AM dacash wrote:
And I agree Mizu: A good leader would have let that pass right by him. But that's not who the public voted for.
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 8:56:45 AM redreine wrote:
Here it is Dacash, see my above post

The public chose Trump. End of story. The public endorses and constructed the system for choosing presidents, and then used it to chose Trump. Had we not had an electoral college and instead used popular vote only, I assure that all the candidates would have run their campaigns significantly differently. And had that been the case, the outcome of the popular vote count would be different than it is. So there is really no other way to look at it.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:23:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:11:50 AM redreine wrote:
Doesn't make any difference whatsoever, so I don't see why you and others bring it up The simple fact is, more of the American population voted for her, thus America voted for her. The electoral college put him in office, not the American people
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:19:31 AM CowDung wrote:
It is brought up because California is one of those states that is so heavily Democrat that Republicans may not even bother to vote. Clinton lost the popular vote by 1 million votes in the other 49 states...

She still won the popular vote, so it's still incorrect to say the American population nominated trump
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:24:09 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:11:50 AM redreine wrote:
Doesn't make any difference whatsoever, so I don't see why you and others bring it up The simple fact is, more of the American population voted for her, thus America voted for her. The electoral college put him in office, not the American people
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:19:31 AM CowDung wrote:
It is brought up because California is one of those states that is so heavily Democrat that Republicans may not even bother to vote. Clinton lost the popular vote by 1 million votes in the other 49 states...
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:23:11 AM redreine wrote:
She still won the popular vote, so it's still incorrect to say the American population nominated trump


They certainly nominated Trump, just like they nominated Clinton...

11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:24:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
The public today didn't decide on the existence of the electoral college, so you can't even try going that road
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:25:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
Not it isn't because the popular vote is not used to elect the president.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:25:35 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:24:32 AM redreine wrote:
The public today didn't decide on the existence of the electoral college, so you can't even try going that road


What road is that, and who's trying to go there?

11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:26:31 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:24:32 AM redreine wrote:
The public today didn't decide on the existence of the electoral college, so you can't even try going that road
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:25:35 AM CowDung wrote:
What road is that, and who's trying to go there?

Your post before that wasn't there when I posted that
It was aimed at dacash
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:27:49 AM EST (GMT-5)
And the road of "the public endorses the electoral college"
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:33:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:27:49 AM redreine wrote:
And the road of "the public endorses the electoral college"
But the public did create it, and does endorse it. Sure, there are detractors, but as a whole they support it, or they would change it. And they haven't. There isn't even a really serious movement to do so.

And far more importantly: the vote count does not represent the popular vote. So it is far more ridiculous for you to claim that Clinton won the popular vote than to say that Trump was chosen by the public.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:35:20 AM EST (GMT-5)
More people voted for her. Period.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:38:56 AM EST (GMT-5)
And I can't speak for everybody, but I've personally been against the electoral college since '04
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:41:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:35:20 AM redreine wrote:
More people voted for her. Period.

Exactly, and that is much as can really be said about the results of the popular vote.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:42:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:35:20 AM redreine wrote:
More people voted for her. Period.

So? That's not how it works
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:42:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:35:20 AM redreine wrote:
More people voted for her. Period.
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:41:43 AM dacash wrote:
Exactly, and that is much as can really be said about the results of the popular vote.

That's all I was saying.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:43:28 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:35:20 AM redreine wrote:
More people voted for her. Period.
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:42:32 AM theBSR wrote:
So? That's not how it works

We weren't discussing how it works
We were discussing a turn of phrase
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:50:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
This election proved why the electoral college does work
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:51:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:19:31 AM CowDung wrote:
It is brought up because California is one of those states that is so heavily Democrat that Republicans may not even bother to vote. Clinton lost the popular vote by 1 million votes in the other 49 states...


my main reason for voting was to at least get out there and vote on ballot initiatives in the state. liberals run the show here and i don't think that will change anytime soon.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:56:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
I voted in MD and never once in 7 years did something or someone I voted for win. I did it as sort of a protest, and to wake up the ballot folks. I'd walk in and they'd ask which party. It always seem to wake them up a little when I said republican.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 10:00:59 AM EST (GMT-5)
Vilifying him as a bully who humiliates, disrespects
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 6:44:29 AM Fear Me wrote:
Isn't that pretty much how almost every liberal on this site behaves? If Trump is all of these things then why doesn't the left embrace him?
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 6:46:10 AM cola wrote:
Dude quit being a fag before someone shoves you into a locker


Sorry, I'm normal aka heterosexual.

Don't throw a tantrum because liberals are violent, thin-skinned people.

Thanks for proving my point about liberals on this site. Good job.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 10:02:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:19:31 AM CowDung wrote:
It is brought up because California is one of those states that is so heavily Democrat that Republicans may not even bother to vote. Clinton lost the popular vote by 1 million votes in the other 49 states...
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:51:41 AM Inquizitor2 wrote:
my main reason for voting was to at least get out there and vote on ballot initiatives in the state. liberals run the show here and i don't think that will change anytime soon.


Yep, and they are slowly killing it.
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 10:04:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 1/10/17 - 9:56:43 AM dacash wrote:
I voted in MD and never once in 7 years did something or someone I voted for win. I did it as sort of a protest, and to wake up the ballot folks. I'd walk in and they'd ask which party. It always seem to wake them up a little when I said republican.

Even though I'm obviously not a republican, I gotta give props here

Just about nothing frustrates me more than someone having the right to vote and not doing it
11 days ago - Tuesday 1/10/17 - 10:10:13 AM EST (GMT-5)
Well, the polling place was literally across the street from my house. I had to walk all of 100 feet to vote. There is no way I could claim I didn't realize it was polling day or that I just couldn't make it out to the polls. I could even pick a time when the lines were low because I could see the parking lot from my window.

I can't take much credit there.


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